SENIOR MEMBER: Are there any questions as to the proceedings of the board concerning the rights of the respondent?
MR. HART: No questions, other than I understand that we have the right to ask certain questions of the members of the board to determine whether they may or may not have a predetermined opinion about what should be done with the respondent in this case.
SENIOR MEMBER: Yes, that’s right. Do you wish to question any members of the board concerning their qualifications?
MR. HART: Yes, I would.
Questions by Counsel:
Q. Mr. Fitzgibbons, how long have you been in the Navy?
A. Eleven and a half years, sir.
Q. Have you ever served on an administrative board before?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. Could you estimate how many?
A. Two.
Q. Have you ever served on a court-martial board?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. Would you estimate how many?
A. About twenty.
Q. Now have you ever had any occasion, in the course of your eleven and a half years of service, to have contact with any naval personnel who opposed military service?
A. No, sir.
Q. Do you have any prior knowledge as to the regulations pertaining to the processing of such an individual?
A. Nothing specific, only the general background which every naval officer, you might say, should have.
Q. Could you describe briefly for me, what that background is?
A. While I am aware that there are procedures recently revised by the Department of Defense to afford any member of the naval service the right to refuse military service if he understands the true meaning of military service, and that there are certain formal procedures which should be followed in these cases, I am not familiar with the details.
Q. Now, Mr. Fitzgibbons, do you have any personal feelings about a man who would refuse to kill those he has been ordered to kill?
A. No, sir.
Q. If the evidence were to show that Drury has refused to take part in the killing of other human beings as a fact, which was his reason for having been involved in certain matters, you’d have no prior opinion of his refusal to kill on another’s command?
A. No, sir. If I may point out, as far as any individual refusing to take part in the killing of other human beings, I stand firm in my own personal opinion that every individual has the right to refuse. As far as a prior notion, I have no preconceived notion one way or the other.
Q. Now, do you know what ship Mr. Drury served on?
A. I’m aware he was transferred to the Goldsborough from the Davidson, but know little else of his previous record or how long he had served on the Davidson.
Q. Do you know anybody on the Davidson?
A. Not personally—no, sir.
In like manner were the other members of the board grilled. Having neither seen nor heard, nor spoken anything that might prejudice themselves against the Daniel who did so vociferously object to their way of life, did all but the last of these great tailless apes step forth, unscathed, from the fiery furnace into which they had been cast by that Nebuchadnezzar lawyer of mine to bridge the brook to their hearts. For it seemed that the last of this breed of war mongering apes had actually had contact with someone on my old ship, the USS Davidson. But he too failed to cough up anything more significant than this half-digested tidbit as he finished testifying in the same monkey-see, monkey-do fashion of those who had testified before him.
MR. HART: I have no further questions; and I have no challenges
for cause.
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